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Old 12-06-2021, 10:39 PM
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Tedro, I do feel for you but I think you are trying to do too much like keep unpotting it.
I still like to use peroxide because it's so cheap. I wouldn't use it on a healthy orchid but as I have been discovering watching youtube video's recently even the proper copper treatment can be lethal to roots too. Doing nothing usually results in the death of the orchid anyway. So I can understand the desire to use peroxide.. I mean I probably have set orchids back using it but the only reason to use it because an orchid is already set back. I don't think peroxide has ever led to the death of an orchid at mine. Getting set back probably but at least not dead. I wouldn't turn around and say peroxide has miraculously saved every orchid I've used it on but I have had recoveries using it.
I wouldn't recommend using it. But I will say I do still use it at times. Mostly I dilute it down a bit more with water. You will know if it is working and whether you had a problem if the peroxide starts fizzing within 10 seconds of getting on the affected stem. Whether it truly fixes the problem I doubt.

In this case I personally would not even use any. But it all depends on how the plant is doing. If I feel like something is spreading up the stem like I mentioned happening with my angraecum that shows there is an active infection. Like I mentioned sometimes you can stop it spreading just potting the orchid a bit higher and keeping the stem dry.

It's a tricky matter as each case varies. I still think you should leave the stem for now.

Cut the spike if you must, I think it's a huge shame but it will conserve energy..


i used peroxide the first time. but it (3%) was heavily water diluted; i maybe slightly spayed, but mostly — which wasn’t much — i used a q-tip.

we seem to be doing fine.
flowers soon, buds growing. leaves sturdy, good color.
infact, i’m a bit stunned at the effects of me cutting off the end of that one leaf and putting cinnamon on the edge. I have always used cinnamon on every plant I cut. But that leaf simply looks perfect it’s still completely green all the way to the edge of where I cut it. The weather has warmed up I think a lot of my problem was the temperature change because I changed my sleeping pattern and I like to sleep in very cold. So all during the phal’s daytime (7-7) i am alseep until 3-4pm, when i wake is when it’s coldest. then i turn it off. however, i’ve been trying to sleep warmer… i think it helped rather immediately.

we’ll see.

no more repotting or cutting unless she starts dying back… not gonna happen! we’re gonna flower profusely with what we’ve got, then we’ve going straight to making roots! just as we are, no changes.

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Old 12-07-2021, 03:19 PM
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i had just taken and posted this 1st bloom pic.
looking at it afterward, i see the dead end or rather i think it’s not the spike end but a bud that …. well i don’t know. died, yes. but looks black, feels soft and i’m going to now (not shown) pull it off.

hope we’re ok. hoping this is from previous stress that has calmed.

the rest of the tips look good, long road ahead.


btw, i figured out how to add some warmth — I’ve not done it yet — My timer has two plugs and I have a lamp that I’m not using hooked up to it I could put a standard incandescent bulb in there the old-school type that make a little bit of warmth it doesn’t have to be aimed at the plant it can just be near. I may try that. But I’ve been trying to let it be a little warmer in here anyway so we’ll see but I thought that was a pretty good idea.
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Old 12-08-2021, 07:39 AM
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[QUOTE=isurus79;973946]Kelp fertilizers are great for stimulating new root growth. First Ray's sells a high quality kelp fertilizer, which is in on sale right now (here: Nutrients/Additives Archives › First Rays LLC). His site also offers excellent fertilizer advice based on science.

I've noticed you can cut the mature aerial roots back to within 3-4 inches from the plant and stimulate new growth on them. Then tuck the new roots into the pot where they can better contribute to the plant's health.[COLOR="Silver"]

So I tried this and killed the phalaenopsis. I have another phalaenopsis which seems to love sending out all air roots and no underground roots, so I have mounted it on a lump of bark and keep it at 60-75% r.h. And it has new air roots!

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So I tried this and killed the phalaenopsis. I have another phalaenopsis which seems to love sending out all air roots and no underground roots, so I have mounted it on a lump of bark and keep it at 60-75% r.h. And it has new air roots!
I suspect it wasn't cutting the aerial roots to stimulate more growth that killed the plant. Not sending "underground roots" probably means that you were keeping the media too wet. However, realizing this and mounting is a great way to overcome a heavy handed watering can! I wish I had conditions conducive to mounting since it seems like such a cool (and natural!) method for growing orchids.
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