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04-19-2008, 11:14 AM
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To what alliance do Sarcochilus belong?
Hey there all! This is just a quick little question, mainly out of curiosity. I've seen conflicting info in various places online. Some say Vandaceous, some say Pleuro, I even saw one say Phal. I know that in the forums here, Sarcs are listed under the Pleuro alliance. But are there other monopodial pleuros?
 
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04-19-2008, 11:25 AM
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According to Orchidwiz, they're in the Vandaceous group.
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04-19-2008, 11:42 AM
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Yep.
SUBFAMILY Epidendroideae, TRIBE Vandeae, SUBTRIBE Aeridinae
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04-19-2008, 12:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray
Yep.
SUBFAMILY Epidendroideae, TRIBE Vandeae, SUBTRIBE Aeridinae
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ALLIANCE Phalaenopsis
Speaking of which, 'Sarconopsis' (Phalaenopsis x Sarcochilus) seems like a really interesting mix... anyone seen one in flower? Maybe they have enough cool-grown Sarc in them to mount one outside  |
04-19-2008, 01:16 PM
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ALLIANCE Phalaenopsis
Speaking of which, 'Sarconopsis' (Phalaenopsis x Sarcochilus) seems like a really interesting mix... anyone seen one in flower? Maybe they have enough cool-grown Sarc in them to mount one outside |
OW has it as Vandaceous (excluding Phalaenopsis)
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04-19-2008, 01:39 PM
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Partly what confused me was that here on the OB, in the list of alliance forums, Sarcs are listed at the Pleuro alliance forum.
IOSPE also lists as Tribe: Vandae
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04-19-2008, 07:07 PM
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Vanda alliance. Without question. Pleurothallids are mostly New World orchids. Vandas are mostly Old World.
Sarcochilus spp. grows as a monopodial-sympodial. Pleurothallids grow as sympodials.
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04-19-2008, 07:11 PM
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Also another way to figure it out is that most Pleurothallids especially Restrepias, Acronias, Pleurothallis, and Ancipitua have the two lateral sepals fused to form what is called a synsepal.
Vandaceous flowers don't have a synsepal, especially so with Sarcochilus spp.
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04-19-2008, 10:27 PM
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yeah definitely Vandaceous monopodial (Vanda tribe). Closest to Phalaenopsis and Aerides i think.
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04-20-2008, 06:26 AM
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Yep Vanda alliance. No chance of it being a Pleuro.
I have seen a few Sarcanopsis when judging. They are very attractive flowerings as well. Not sure what the exact background of the particular hybrids were but they are like a Sarcochilus but on steroids as far as colour and size goes.
If I see some at the shows this year I will post here for you to see.
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