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06-11-2020, 10:07 PM
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hypostatic ------ nothing major ----- but only just noticed .... that nursery that printed your plant tag .... Kulnara Dazzel is registered. Possibly (not sure though) they spelled it incorrectly upon registration.
This is because - on their website, they have two different spellings on the same page. The 'typo' or mispelled word went through registration, so looks like stuck with the 'typo' (typing error or mispelling).
From site: Click Here
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06-11-2020, 10:10 PM
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Hmmm yeah, mine have very few roots, so I don't think straight into traditional media would cut it for them. I think wrapping them in sphag should compensate a bit for the lack of roots
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06-11-2020, 10:18 PM
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Sounds good hypostatic. Anyway, your plants are looking pretty good.
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06-11-2020, 10:22 PM
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I'm not at my notes. An Australian Sarc hybridizer spoke to our society. He supplies plants to SVO. He grows in a fully inorganic mix of rock wool, perlite, polysterene chunks (bean bag chair stuffing) and charcoal. Medium size varies with plant size. He waters plants every day of the year., and fertilizes almost every watering. His temperature range in the growing area is just below freezing on some winter nights to 104 F / 40C some summer days. There are two types of Sarc species: cool growers, which he thinks should be in a different genus, and warm growers. Our hybrids are all from the warm growers.
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06-11-2020, 10:28 PM
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Nice information ES! Thanks for mentioning that.
My first sarco here is a ceciliae, and it's excellent to hear from what you wrote that the grower waters every day of the year. This is my plan too. I just water mostly around the edge/sides of the pot ----- spraying water into the scoria. I'm just going to try this approach and see what happens. This sarc will get a lot of morning sun, right up to late morning.
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06-11-2020, 11:08 PM
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Double check whether ceciliae is used in current hybridizing. It might be one of the cool growers. I don't know much about them beyond that lecture. This guy didn't drizzle water - he soaked them every day.
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06-11-2020, 11:22 PM
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Actually, S, ceceliae is one of the warmer growers, native to North Queensland among other places. The "foundation" species for most of the hybrids start with species like S. hartmanii and S. fitzgeraldii. I wonder what the speaker's definition of "cool" is, and which species fall into that definition. My functional definition of "cool" is "tolerates winter, to occasional near freezing, in my back yard" and S. hartmanii and S. fitzgeraldii definitely do that. My S. ceceliae did better in the greenhouse. S. falcatus also grows outside for me (so I'd define it as "cool" on my functional scale) Ceceliae is used to enhance pink, but there are also a lot of pink ones with line-bred fitzgeraldii as a major constituent. (Those can range from almost all white to very pink even just as the species)
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06-12-2020, 08:53 AM
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I have a few SVO-sourced hybrids, but they are struggling in our heat. I may do a KelpMax soak then stick them into S/H and see what happens.
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06-13-2020, 01:44 AM
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OK, I think they are ready tomorrow to be re-planted.
Current condition. Removed all the dead (also smelly..) tissue. Now it's visible that both have at least some living roots:
Last pic for reference:
original closeup (~1 month ago)
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06-13-2020, 01:49 AM
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Wow, such improvement!
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