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Old 05-21-2018, 04:26 AM
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Hi,new to the forum,but been growing orchids for about 10 years in Australia

Got about 50 Aussie Dendrobium hybrid seedling and am a bit worried they will get too cold where i live as it can get down below freezing
Is there a simple method say putting them in a styro box and maybe a heat mat under or is a grow light better to keep them warm and growing thru winter and would I need fans to keep the air moving any suggestions would be appreciated thanks,there is probably some info on these forums but I could not find anything about seedling warmth.
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:42 AM
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A heat mat without some sort of enclosure ought to do it.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:58 AM
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Thanks Ray,do you think it will dry them out too quick
Also would a light above keep them growing a bit over winter or is it better to give them a rest until Spring which means September over here
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Kingianums occur naturally as far south as the Hunter Valley, which isn’t that far from where you live, so they must be able to tolerate cold temperatures.

If they are hybrids then the thing they are most likely to be hybridised with is D. speciosum, which has many forms but some at least occur in Victoria, so again very cold tolerant.

I grew a few straight kingianums outdoors year-round in Patonga (sthrn Central Coast) and made no special provision for them in winter. They thrived. Cold place in winter, Patonga. Also in Epping (temps down to 2 degrees) and they thrived there too.

If they were mine, I’d leave them outside most of the year, but bring them inside to an unheated room in the coldest two winter months while seedlings, but not as mature plants.

In terms of their preferred winter treatment, just think of the winter conditions around Coffs or Port Macquarie, the centre of their distribution. Winter is basically like summer, only colder. Not particularly wet or dry.

Of course if they are hybridised with something else then I have no idea.

Apologies if I’m stating the obvious here, but a handy thing to do is to look at this map of BOM stations and see which one you are most closely aligned with
Sydney Area Weather Observation Stations . Then you can fine-tune it by taking local measurements and comparing to published observational data. You’ll find that in coastal suburbs the microclimates vary widely, but in Western Sydney it’s pretty uniform, generally with more extremes of hot and cold the further west you go. I’ve worked out that where I live our summer temps and humidity track pretty close to Gosford met station, but in winter temps track Sydney Harbour or about half a degree above. In winter add about one degree for a protected spot, two degrees for an unheated greenhouse, and about 4 degrees for an unheated room in an average Australian home.

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Thanks ArronOB for your detailed info,yes they are hybrids in the Avrils Gold and Cosmic gold crosses and just out of flask and to me they are very touchy at this early stage,plus I was trying to keep them growing a bit thru winter if possible, I agree they are pretty tough but in the 1st 12 months or so I have a bit of trouble and lose a few,hence the question.
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Thanks ArronOB for your detailed info,yes they are hybrids in the Avrils Gold and Cosmic gold crosses and just out of flask and to me they are very touchy at this early stage,plus I was trying to keep them growing a bit thru winter if possible, I agree they are pretty tough but in the 1st 12 months or so I have a bit of trouble and lose a few,hence the question.
Sorry, I didn’t mean to be patronising, but by the tone of your post I thought you were new to orchids.

And I believe those crosses are largely speciosum, making my assumption that you had some kingianums irrelevant anyway.

Good luck with them anyway.

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Make a seedling box (see instructions on my web site), and place it on a heat mat. It will both hold humidity, and increase temperature.

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