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02-24-2008, 04:13 AM
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Peter's Cal-Mag Excel
I recently read an excellant article in the February '08 issue of 'Orchids' about the use of a fertilizer named Peter's Cal-Mag Excel (15-5-15). I would like to try this fertilizer, but cannot find a source for it. Does anyone know where this product can be purchased? Thanks for any info
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02-24-2008, 08:43 AM
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Silkus,
I am not of much help here, but am just interested in any feedback you receive. I newly bought a RO Filter and have been doing some research where to get a good fertilizer for RO water. The only one I have found so far is Peter's Excel 13-5-20 and 15-5-15...
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02-24-2008, 09:15 AM
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I would be interested as well. Also I could not find a source for the S.T.E.M.
But the author has an email address:
remarkorkid@aol.com
maybe he could tell us.
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02-24-2008, 10:01 AM
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HortHippo.com has a 25# bag of 15-5-15 for $31.00
I did a search on there site ("Peter's Cal-Mag Excel") and found it listed on the second page.
Also here is a website that has alot of research on fertilizer in R/O water on orchids.
Fertilizers in Reverse Osmosis Water
Jayme
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02-24-2008, 10:22 AM
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Interesting, here in Brazil (a "little bit" far from Canada than US) Peters (any kind) is easily found! And is cheap too! (Excel Cal-Mag 15-5-15 ~ U$ 8.73 - 2Kg pack).
A tip for Calcium absorption: this element is poorly absorbed in foliar fertilization, and do not move into the plant when asorbed by leaves; when using Cal-Mag, you need to watering the plant with the fertilizer solution.
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02-24-2008, 10:44 AM
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That stuff has a formula very close to that of the Greencare Orchid Special for RO water (aka "MSU Fertilizer"), so that is a decent alternative.
I carry Peter's STEM.
A follow up on that last post - orchids are basically very poor foliar feeders in the first place. As part of a water-retention strategy, they have evolved to having very few stomata on the upper leaf surface, and some even close them in the daytime.
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02-25-2008, 06:04 PM
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sorry
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Originally Posted by Ray
That stuff has a formula very close to that of the Greencare Orchid Special for RO water (aka "MSU Fertilizer"), so that is a decent alternative.
I carry Peter's STEM.
A follow up on that last post - orchids are basically very poor foliar feeders in the first place. As part of a water-retention strategy, they have evolved to having very few stomata on the upper leaf surface, and some even close them in the daytime.
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Ray, how do you control the pH of your RO Water after adding the fertilizer? In one of the previous replies in this thread is a link, where it is shown that the pH of the water stays quite acid when using Peter's Excel...
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02-25-2008, 06:59 PM
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In the case of the Greencare Orchid Special for RO - the formula close to the Peter's Cal Mag - the minerals are formulated specifically to give you high 5's/low 6's, so no additional adjustment is necessary.
I have always used Dyna-Gro Pro-TeKt to raise the pH if I had to with other fertilizers.
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02-25-2008, 07:08 PM
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Hi Ray,
thanks for the reply. You mean high 5's/low 6's at around 150 ppm N, right?
I have not yet started with RO, as my filter will arrive by next week. Just after I need to install it and start checking how it works with the Peter's Excel... probably, I will need to test the pH a couple of times until I get it on the right range...
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02-26-2008, 10:01 AM
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With the Greencare MSU RO fertilizer, the pH is going to be fairly independent of the concentration
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