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Old 09-30-2015, 06:42 PM
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Citrus are dicots. Their vascular tissue is a continuous cylinder just beneath the surface. To graft , the vascular cylinder of the stock and scion must be aligned in at least one point.

Orchids are monocots. Their vascular tissue is in small strands scattered throughout the stem. It is not possible to align the vascular strands blindly. We can't graft monocots.
That is interesting. Thanks for the info.
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Citrus are dicots. Their vascular tissue is a continuous cylinder just beneath the surface. To graft , the vascular cylinder of the stock and scion must be aligned in at least one point.

Orchids are monocots. Their vascular tissue is in small strands scattered throughout the stem. It is not possible to align the vascular strands blindly. We can't graft monocots.
Always appreciate your insight. Are you a botanist?
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Always appreciate your insight. Are you a botanist?
Thanks; just a hobbyist. I read a lot.
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So 2 days out and the attached pieces look good. Still green and not drying out.
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I hope your plant continues to do well!!


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So 2 days out and the attached pieces look good. Still green and not drying out.
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I do feel, just like a large open wound where the edges need to be re-cut to meet together and grow, you might need to do the same with plants. It has to be a freah cut because the plants will begin to create enzymes to "scab over" nearly immediately. Once the cascade has started, the cut needs to be freshened. I see that you say it is working. Its kind of like when you amputate you need to do so in an area with enough blood flow to cause the re-growth. P-bulbs are fat and fleshy, so I can see these working. Spikes, not so much. I mean because the resources of the plant will be diverted to healing and not to procreation, which is what the flowers are. Plants are so fascinating, yes?
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I do feel, just like a large open wound where the edges need to be re-cut to meet together and grow, you might need to do the same with plants. It has to be a freah cut because the plants will begin to create enzymes to "scab over" nearly immediately. Once the cascade has started, the cut needs to be freshened. I see that you say it is working. Its kind of like when you amputate you need to do so in an area with enough blood flow to cause the re-growth. P-bulbs are fat and fleshy, so I can see these working. Spikes, not so much. I mean because the resources of the plant will be diverted to healing and not to procreation, which is what the flowers are. Plants are so fascinating, yes?
Yes. Very fascinating. These were the tips of the pbulbs, with 3-4 of the smaller, more immature leaves. They are still green going on this third day but I wonder if they can still slowly die. Or, whether they will elongate and harden as the unbroken ones have. I glued them on almost as soon as they broke off, hoping that I could re-attach them before too much change had occurred.
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I am thinking of polyphenol oxidase. Perhaps you might look at that. I think you might get a tip die back but you would have saved the P-bulb. I am hoping you had live leaves on more bulbs, but really the back bulbs (old bulbs) will continue to feed the plant for as long as needed. New bulbs will re-form, look like leaves, and then start to become bulbs. Much air, water, light, humidity, and do not over fertilize. Are you in an area where the plants can go outside in the warm season? My plants usually double in size from mid spring to mid fall. The best thing for them is max light for their needs and unpolluted rain water. glucose building.
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I am thinking of polyphenol oxidase. Perhaps you might look at that. I think you might get a tip die back but you would have saved the P-bulb. I am hoping you had live leaves on more bulbs, but really the back bulbs (old bulbs) will continue to feed the plant for as long as needed. New bulbs will re-form, look like leaves, and then start to become bulbs. Much air, water, light, humidity, and do not over fertilize. Are you in an area where the plants can go outside in the warm season? My plants usually double in size from mid spring to mid fall. The best thing for them is max light for their needs and unpolluted rain water. glucose building.
Thanks for the info. Yes, the pbulbs are doing well, continuing to plump up. I live in MN and did have it outside during the Spring and Summer but unfortunately, the warm season is coming to an end. Doesn't last very long here either. Soon it will be all snow and cloudy days here. My plant actually has many pbulbs. It grew 8 new ones this season after it lost several when I left it with a friend while I was gone for 6 months. Interestingly, I was in Northern Thailand (in the mountains) and saw this very plant (as well as others and wild orchids) thriving and making seed pods, just hanging next to village homes. I was very jealous.
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