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Old 12-23-2007, 10:43 AM
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The new AQ Plus (from AOS) is also a good resource for orchid names - past and present. The program, which will be updated several times a year, includes the Sanders list of new hybrids (from RHS) as well as articles and/or explanations for name changes. There are currently 40k photos of AOS awarded plants as well as descriptions. AOS judges are required to subscribe to the Awards Quarterly magazine now, the AQ Plus cd. At $50 a year, it's a great tool.
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Old 12-23-2007, 12:38 PM
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Frederico

Do you have the reference were to find this "single" work on the Brazilian Laelias? It would be interesting to read....
(Journal, year, issue, page?)
/Magnus

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But don't worry, naming brzl Laelia as "Sophronitis" is so obviously completely wrong (a demented idea, in fact), this "genius" idea based on a single scientific work, with a half-dozen genes in common, that RHS will soon need to change its names "
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:00 PM
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CNEOS, that's true, AQPlus is a giant step in the right direction. I have both OrchidWiz and AQPlus. I find OW to be more useful at least for now. AQP is geared towards awards and awarded plants. OW is a better general orchid information program because it covers all registrations, gives pedigrees (in pictures where possible), has cultivation data, searches better from partial names and phrases, and has more pictures of a single plant (flower) than AQP.

AQP has the awards photos, OW does not. Both programs have some good pictures, but the majority are not very good. I'm not knocking AQP. It has just gotten off the ground and hopefully it will get better and better. It is cheaper at $50 per year versus $175 initially and about $80 per year for OW. For now, I think OW is worth the extra cash, but I'll keep getting AQP also.
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I just purchased Orchid Wiz and should have it in a few days. I would like to have Awards Quarterly also but I think I will work with Orchid Wiz for a while and decide later about getting Awards Quarterly.
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Old 12-23-2007, 09:24 PM
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Speaking as a (newly appointed) Probationary Judge, I find that AQ Plus is an incredible tool to quickly look at photos AND get descriptions of awarded plants in ONE place instead of having to sort through 35 mm slide collections and years of AQ magazines! AQ + is no help at all as far as unawarded hybrids are concerned but OW does give a good look at what qualities the parents can bring to their offspring. Both programs really have a place in one's orchid library.

Incidentally, no matter how good the photographer or the media, the best representation is 'what's seen in real life!"
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Old 12-24-2007, 05:23 AM
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Congratulations on your judge-ship. You should be proud of the accomplishment. I wish I were younger and had the required experience to qualify.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:07 AM
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Getting back to the orginal mess with the Cattleya hybrids, I call mine 'Cattleya alliance hybrids' now as I can no longer keep up with the name changes. Between Sophronitis and Guaranthe, the names are now crazy!
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Congratulations on your judge-ship. You should be proud of the accomplishment. I wish I were younger and had the required experience to qualify.
Thank you. Education and learning new things should be an ongoing, lifelong process. If it's something you enjoy, you're never too old to start training to be a judge. I became a probationary judge at 57 and if all goes well, I'll become fully accredited at 60. Incidentally, one of the folks that inspired me, became fully accredited at the same AOS meeting - Dave is 75!
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Magnus,

Here it is:

Van den Berg C, Higgins WE, Dressler RL, Whitten MW, Soto-Arenas MA, Culham A, Chase MW. A Phylogenetic Analysis of Laelinae (Orchidaceae) Based on Sequence Data from Internal Transcribed Spacers (ITS) of Nuclear Ribossomal DNA. Lindleyana 15(2):96-114, 2000.

Available in scientific Data Bases in University Libraries.

Todd,
You are right, the names are crazy!

Merry Christmas!!!
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Old 12-26-2007, 12:29 PM
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Thank you. Education and learning new things should be an ongoing, lifelong process. If it's something you enjoy, you're never too old to start training to be a judge. I became a probationary judge at 57 and if all goes well, I'll become fully accredited at 60. Incidentally, one of the folks that inspired me, became fully accredited at the same AOS meeting - Dave is 75!
Very true! My region has several judges that are in their 70's and 80's, and even a couple that are in their 90's!
While their bodies are not as cooperative as earlier in life, being intensely involved in orchids seems to keep the mind alive!

The process connects people from 3+ generations and they all learn from each other........
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