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Originally Posted by JMLand
(Post 577544)
True organics stay in the media and don't get washed out easily. Chemicals do. Organic is far less likely to burn chemical will burn if over used.
I'm also curious to know what organics you are familiar with. The stuff I use is composed of fish meal, blood meal, kelp and potash. Thats it. No other stuff other than some mint extract to make it smell less fishy. No salts from ammonia to build up. My plants dry up plenty and I fertilize heavy. And yet no salt build up and no burn.
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Fish meal and blood meal produce ammonia as they decay. Potash is a salt of potassium.
Nutrients-- all of them, regardless of their source-- ARE chemicals, by definition.
Many of those chemicals are, technically speaking, organic, and many are salts. No way around that. The term "organic" as it has been applied to agricultural styles is a really awkward, confusing usage of the word. If you're going to talk about the specifics of fertilizing, a more specific vocabulary helps. Organic vs inorganic is a different use of the word than organic vs artifical, and so on. Hell, when you get right down to the nitty gritty even scientists argue about what's organic and what isn't, and does carbon dioxide count, etc.
So, when you say "organic" are you trying to refer to compounds that contain carbon, or are you actually talking about compost, or humus, or are you referring to something natural vs something artificial, or something solid vs liquid, or...?
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Originally Posted by Orchid126
(Post 577794)
It is my understanding that organic fertilizers need soil in order to break down and be utilized by the plant. But most orchids are not grown in soil, and organics merely accumulate in the medium and begin to burn the roots.
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"Organic" is not quite the issue. The question is bioavailability, or whether the nutrients in the fertilizer exist in a form that is directly available to the plants or not. If the nutrients are contained in compost-- chunks of decaying stuff-- then yes, they need to be broken down further before plants can utilize them. It's not so much that soil is
needed for this to happen, as soil/humus tends to be the
result. Along the way, the active decay of unfinished compost or the pileup of material can hurt roots, by different mechanisms of damage than that caused by accumulated salts.
Epiphytic orchids in the wild get most of their nutrients from stuff carried in the water that flows over them, and can't tolerate a constant rot-happy cover of soil/humus. This means we generally need fertilizer that's already pretty thoroughly broken down for them.
I use live fish and aquatic compost (tea, I suppose?), myself, with some added micronutrients.