How do I separate these keikis? - Orchid Board

SlipperGirl · #1 03-12-2013, 12:44 PM

How can I separate these all the roots and leaves and tangled up together I dont know what I should do to get them separate withought hurting them. Its phal purple martin.

tucker85 · #2 03-12-2013, 12:56 PM

Are those keikis or are they several separate plants from a group pot?

SlipperGirl · #3 03-12-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tucker85

Are those keikis or are they several separate plants from a group pot?

keikis

tucker85 · #4 03-12-2013, 01:17 PM

Basal keikis are sometimes a plants attempt to survive from some kind of stress in a less than perfect environment. I prefer to leave basal keikis in place and let the plant grow the way it wants to. At least until one or more of the plants get larger. By the way I have Purple Martin and it's a really nice little phal that can bloom for a long time. Good luck.

Pilot · #5 03-12-2013, 01:36 PM

It's not a basal keiki but the result of keiki paste.

My suggestion is to grow this clump out and keep the largest and strongest plants.

SlipperGirl · #6 03-12-2013, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot

It's not a basal keiki but the result of keiki paste.

My suggestion is to grow this clump out and keep the largest and strongest plants.

ok I will let it grow out. but I am having trouble giving it enough water the roots are drying up what can I do to give it enough water.

Stray59 · #7 03-12-2013, 01:49 PM

If those are from kieki paste, the paste has gotten a lot better since I last used it! What a cluster of phalae's - I think I would pot them together until they get larger - this will aid you in untangling the roots as they will be larger and easier to un-wrap from each other. I also see that there are a couple that are suffering from lack of water (pleated and wrinkles new growth) so they need to get their roots into some medium. And in picture #1 I see what looks like mealy bugs in the upper right leaf crease; if they are mealy bugs, they will drain juice at an amazing rate! You want to get rid of them ASAP. I think there is one plant that would be okay to remove now, but I still think the rest are too small - I would plant them as they are to allow them to grow some more.
Just my opinion!
Steve

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If the roots are being planted and still drying out, I would loosely wrap some damp sphagnum moss around the root ball to increase the moisture around them - are you misting or just watering from a hose/watering can? I see that there are growths coming out in various directions - I think I would just weave some moss around the root ball and keep it damp with the various growth tips emerging. You may have to just wrap it and set on a pot of moist medium rather than submerge new growth under the medium. Can't really see all that is going on with this little clump, but I think I would avoid covering the new growth with medium as they will just rot -
Steve

SlipperGirl · #8 03-12-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stray59

If those are from kieki paste, the paste has gotten a lot better since I last used it! What a cluster of phalae's - I think I would pot them together until they get larger - this will aid you in untangling the roots as they will be larger and easier to un-wrap from each other. I also see that there are a couple that are suffering from lack of water (pleated and wrinkles new growth) so they need to get their roots into some medium. And in picture #1 I see what looks like mealy bugs in the upper right leaf crease; if they are mealy bugs, they will drain juice at an amazing rate! You want to get rid of them ASAP. I think there is one plant that would be okay to remove now, but I still think the rest are too small - I would plant them as they are to allow them to grow some more.
Just my opinion!
Steve

---------- Post added at 10:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:47 AM ----------

If the roots are being planted and still drying out, I would loosely wrap some damp sphagnum moss around the root ball to increase the moisture around them - are you misting or just watering from a hose/watering can?
Steve

I have just been misting them

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I put some alcohol on the plants I hope this will get rid of the mealy bugs those thing do not want to go away

I will post some pics when I get the moss on the plants

Stray59 · #9 03-12-2013, 03:09 PM

Again, you will need something around the roots to hold more moisture, but again the odd angles the plantlets are growing from doesn't really lend itself to planting the entire clump, so again, I would suggest a ball of sphagnum moss with maybe some coco-coir or or small coco chunks around the main root ball along with a wooden stake or skewer and then wrap with roots and stake with damp sphagnum moss; I would use nylon thread, to wrap around the moss ball to secure it together and onto the stake, then fill a pot with potting medium and stick the "plant on a stick" into the pot so it is elevated, and can be watered and misted this way - plus it gets extra humidity. I would give it a few weeks and look for active root growth, check for root rot and just wait until the plants are larger.
At least that is my thought on this-
Steve

SlipperGirl · #10 03-12-2013, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stray59

Again, you will need something around the roots to hold more moisture, but again the odd angles the plantlets are growing from doesn't really lend itself to planting the entire clump, so again, I would suggest a ball of sphagnum moss with maybe some coco-coir or or small coco chunks around the main root ball along with a wooden stake or skewer and then wrap with roots and stake with damp sphagnum moss; I would use nylon thread, to wrap around the moss ball to secure it together and onto the stake, then fill a pot with potting medium and stick the "plant on a stick" into the pot so it is elevated, and can be watered and misted this way - plus it gets extra humidity. I would give it a few weeks and look for active root growth, check for root rot and just wait until the plants are larger.
At least that is my thought on this-
Steve

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