New Potting Technique, Root Health
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

New Potting Technique, Root Health
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register New Potting Technique, Root Health Members New Potting Technique, Root Health New Potting Technique, Root Health Today's PostsNew Potting Technique, Root Health New Potting Technique, Root Health New Potting Technique, Root Health
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-14-2009, 06:29 PM
Douglas Scanlan Douglas Scanlan is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
New Potting Technique, Root Health
Default New Potting Technique, Root Health

I have been experimenting with a potting technique I thought of, using transparent glass floral stones in a wire basket. My intention is to create an environment for the roots more like their natural habitat- light exposure for the roots, open air flow, and the ability air dry after watering within one or two days- just like in the wild if the roots were rained on. The first pic I have attached here is of the potted plant so you can see what I am describing. I have to water much more frequently this way since the glass retains no moisture, but also my apartment is at 70% humidity. I water at least every other day.
Here is the problem: My roots are not doing well. One of my Phals potted this way finally lost its blossoms (after 6 months!) so today I cut the spike and pulled the roots out of the glass to inspect them. The last three pics I attached here are of the roots before clean up, and after clean up, as well as a close up fo the dead clippings. I am baffled because I don't understand how the roots could have rotted in this potting system and I'm not even certain that rotting is the problem. The problem roots look more like they are dry and withered rather than rotten, but they were cerainly exposed to plenty of moisture. Can anyone tell from these photos what the problem really is?
Attached Thumbnails
New Potting Technique, Root Health-potting-glass-jpg   New Potting Technique, Root Health-cleanup-jpg   New Potting Technique, Root Health-dead-root-clippings-jpg   New Potting Technique, Root Health-clean-jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-14-2009, 06:40 PM
Zoi2 Zoi2 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Zone: 5a
Member of:OSGKC
Location: Kansas City, MO
Age: 67
Posts: 4,773
Default

Using the glass does make a pretty potted plant, and I can see the ease in watering etc.
For my I wonder if the glass is just too heavy for the roots and for real air circulation.
What was the plant potted in before and what were your roots doing? If you did not have new root growth when you changed the growing media, you may not have had enough roots to acclimate to the new media.
Joann
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-14-2009, 06:49 PM
Des Des is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Port Elizabeth
Age: 77
Posts: 898
Default

Douglas I had similar problems when experimenting with smaller glass beads , my thoughts were that the glass was somehow poisoning the root system by giving off some chemical . I was never quite able to figure out the problem and scrapped the idea in favor of CHC
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-15-2009, 02:42 AM
Douglas Scanlan Douglas Scanlan is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
New Potting Technique, Root Health
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Des View Post
Douglas I had similar problems when experimenting with smaller glass beads , my thoughts were that the glass was somehow poisoning the root system by giving off some chemical . I was never quite able to figure out the problem and scrapped the idea in favor of CHC
Thanks, and what is CHC?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-15-2009, 02:47 AM
Des Des is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Port Elizabeth
Age: 77
Posts: 898
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Scanlan View Post
Thanks, and what is CHC?
Coconut husk chips
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-15-2009, 02:49 AM
Douglas Scanlan Douglas Scanlan is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
New Potting Technique, Root Health
Default

I see. You like that more than fir bark?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-15-2009, 03:25 AM
Des Des is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Port Elizabeth
Age: 77
Posts: 898
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Douglas Scanlan View Post
I see. You like that more than fir bark?
Yes I find that it does not hold salts , is easy to rewet if left to dry , does not compete with the plant for nitrogen , does not breakdown for at least 2 years and best of all does not harbor pathogens easily . I find that the root systems of my plants are altogether a lot healthier growing in CHC .
Its disadvantages are that you must control the ph of your feed water as CHC takes on the ph of the feed water very quickly. Also if you buy it in block form it must be processed before use, as the manufacturers use salt as a preservative for shipping to other countries.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-16-2009, 02:38 PM
orchids3 orchids3 is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Jacksonville, Fla USA
Posts: 740
Default

Love CHC myself (mixed with Stalite or hydraton).
What was the pH of whatever your water fertilizer mix? If its acid it will kill the roots. Just an idea.
You can use vinegar for herbicide - because of the acidity.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-18-2009, 08:33 PM
Leisurely Leisurely is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Zone: 9b
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 2,164
Default

Someone said in this thread that Phalaenopsis do not like to dry out. I have large plants that have aerial roots that hang down three feet under the bench. The plants get watered once per week and they are quite happy. I believe that your dead root are from too much water.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-14-2009, 07:24 PM
musicloveranthony musicloveranthony is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
Age: 39
Posts: 143
New Potting Technique, Root Health Male
Default

I think it will be a waiting game If you change the growing media, the roots that had acclimated to a different environment will be less able, or unable, to thrive in the new setting. The older roots will die, but the plant will eventually put out new roots that will function in whatever environment their exposed to (within reason, of course). If you've mounted a potted plant, you'll know what I mean. The old roots that were never exposed to light, nor (for all realistic intents) air flow die off, but new roots grow in after a few months and will be properly suited to the new environment.

Don't give up, just yet It looks like there are some bright green happy new roots!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
glass, potting, root rot, roots, watering phals, health, root, technique


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Please help! Repotted Orchid Root Going Black Singingcrow Pests & Diseases 15 10-01-2009 03:11 AM
Phal root rot, what should I do now? playtime8978 Beginner Discussion 5 03-07-2009 08:49 AM
Root length on cuttings before potting starcat Beginner Discussion 1 09-15-2008 10:05 PM
A root question Becca Beginner Discussion 9 11-28-2007 05:54 AM
New Root!!! Bad Root :( TheCanfield Beginner Discussion 14 11-27-2007 09:43 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:15 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.