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Old 03-17-2009, 11:27 PM
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I have heard of orchids flowering in the flask or flowering the same year they were planted. Does this happen often and why does it happen? I was thinking of maybe trying to cross some orchids and it would be nice to make this happen for some early results on the flowers !
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My assumption to the answer to your question would be that being a miniature and having a fast growth rate compared to their larger cousins and the plant becoming blooming sized plants at a relatively small size are the only reasons, (at least to my knowledge) why any orchid within any tribe in the orchid world would bloom in-flask. I've personally not had first hand experience with this so I wouldn't be able to tell you more.

But it's safe to say no one would expect seedlings of the larger Phalaenopsis varieties to bloom in-flask. Nor would anyone expect Gongora sp, Coryanthes sp, Sievekingia sp, or Stanhopea sp seedlings to bloom in flask even if they have speedy growth rates just because of the nature of what the seedlings of the orchids within the Stahopea/Gongora tribe look like (they look nothing like the adult plants you see, the seedlings resemble miniature vines).

I think in order to have your question answered you would have to have a lot of time to think scientifically and do a lot of research as to why it would be evolutionarily advantageous for a species of orchid to reach blooming size at such a small size and at such a fast rate.

Unfortunately, no one to my knowledge has bothered to do the research to answer your question about orchids reaching blooming size at a small size relatively quickly scientifically.
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Oh, and having orchids bloom in flask is not a common occurrence.
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Well somebody should do research on it!!! lol It would be awesome to not have to wait so long to see the results of your hybridization! ( from a reletively impatient 13 year olds point of veiw)
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I believe Phalaenopsis appendiculata is the plant that is being referred to here.

1. It's a mini. Mature leaves are about 1 inch in length.
2. It grows pretty fast for a Phal.
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I seem to remember seeing a picture of a orchid blooming in a flask in an AOS bulletin a long time ago. I thought it was neat too Maybe you could do some research on your regarding growing times and come up with a list (from a mom's point of view)
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From what I understand, there are some Coryanthes that can bloom in only a few years (2) after being 'born' (released from the seedpod). Unfortunately, I never bothered to get the exact species name! Other than that, I think you have to wait 5 years or so!
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When you're looking to make a cross that'll show quick results, you'll want to take these two things into consideration: the plant and how well you can grow it. The plant bit's common sense, just don't get something that'll take forever to flower. As far as culture goes, also pretty simple. The better you grow it, the sonner it'll flower.

I've heard that phrags and masdies can flower quite soon from flask (2 years). To me, the masdies taking less time to bloom makes more sense, them being pretty small plants they don't need to build up much plant size before they bloom.

The following is just speculation, but you might want to look at some of the twig epiphytes; the really small plants that live right on the tips of the branches in nature. I've read that because it's such an unstable environment on the edge of the trees, that they have quite a fast life cycle so they can germinate, grow, and reproduce before they get smothered by the expanding canopy. Of course, there's also the risk of the branch just snapping off, and there's no buffer provided by the tree between them and the elements, but that's beside the point.

One important thing that's been missed is this: the time it takes to form a pod that you can actually flask and get seedlings. For vandas it can take three years to get a mature pod (but you can probably green pod flask at two years). I wouldn't want to wait that long, and it doesn't sound like you do either. Here's a link to a series of tables with a ton of info on how long it takes to get a pod you can flask.

Hope this helps. Whatever you choose to do, best of luck and all that.
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Thanx!
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:41 AM
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I seem to remember seeing a picture of a orchid blooming in a flask in an AOS bulletin a long time ago. I thought it was neat too Maybe you could do some research on your regarding growing times and come up with a list (from a mom's point of view)
I've had a Dendrobium bloom inside the flask before....apparently Dendrobiums are pretty notorious for blooming young.
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