De-Flasking, Vanda's

[Swamper]

I think very very highly of Ruben and I would have done exactly as he said as well. I did it this way cause that's the way I was shown and told that Robert Fuchs (R.F.Orchids) does it this way. I wasn't about to question.
I think your vandas look fine and they are going to be great. Just remember they are vandas and don't like to stay wet so be carefull with that moss.

[Royal]

Rueben does it one way, R.F. does it another, and Rogerman a third totally unique method. Here's my tip: Do whatever works for you!

We all have unique situations and our own ways of overcoming our plants' cultural requirements, but what's most important is how the plants react. Getting tips from the pros is a good place to start, but it's just a start. You'll find your own "best" method. I'm anxious to learn the Jkelee method.

[rogerman]

I do it the way that is proven to work. Has been done here for years. Vandas NEVER get put in media, and never will.

[Jkelee]

I only put 'media' with my 'babies', as I've always heard, "babies need babying".
That a lil moss never hurts, and I used leca and charcoal.

Now that they are in tiny lil compots, time will tell.
Say some prayers for me puh-weeeze!

[Royal]

Don't baby them too much. If conditions are right (like Rogerman's) they'll like pretty close to "normal" conditions.

[Swamper]

they'll be fine but Ill pray with you if you'd like anyway, I'm kinda used to prayin

[czayta]

I know this thread has been quiet for a long time but I'm about to purchase a Vanda flask. I'm just curious, how did your seedlings grow up? Maybe they are flowering now? :O

[RosieC]

I don't think Jkelee has been on the forum for a very long time, so not sure you will get a reply on that.

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

@czayta: I'm offering a few Vanda insignis seedlings for sale that have already been hardened off.

I also have 1 Vanda javierae seedling for sale that has already been hardened off.

If you're looking for Vanda seedlings, something like the ones I'm selling are easier to handle than seedlings you have to learn how to harden off.

The Vanda insignis, I'm selling for $10.

The Vanda javierae seedling is $35.

Both are rare in the US trade.

I can currently only ship to the continental US.

If you're interested, you may send me a PM.

Even if you're not interested in the seedlings I have to offer for any reason, hardening off seedlings versus not having to harden off seedlings is something to consider into the cost. If you have to learn how to harden off seedlings, the learning curve could be very steep. The possibility of seedlings dying is very real, and a 100% loss is not unheard of. On one hand, you might luck out and end up with lots of seedlings; but if things aren't going well, you could be facing huge losses. Usually, with some experience and skill, it is more typical to get at least 10% of the seedlings to survive to maturity. I'm not necessarily saying that you will end up with a 10% survivability rate, but that's not unheard of either. You could end up with a 5% survivability rate, a 20%, 30%, or 60% success rate. Bottom line is, how many seedlings end up surviving depends on experience, skill, and luck, plus, it can be somewhat random.



Btw, I'm telling you this not because I want to dissuade you from buying a flask of Vanda seedlings and to persuade you into buying my already deflasked, and hardened off Vanda seedlings. Whether anybody out there likes it or not, I've told the truth about the challenges of deflasking seedlings. There are inherent risks to purchasing a flask, and you should know what those risks are as a buyer.

Reproduction for orchids is a numbers game for a reason…

Be aware that for an orchid that can grow as large as a human being, it has the ability to produce thousands, to millions of seeds per seed capsule.

Not every one of those will make it, regardless of whether the orchids were conceived out in the wild, or in a lab.

I just saw that you were actively looking to buy Vanda seedlings, and I am offering some Vanda seedlings that are ready to go with no need to deflask them nor to harden them off. Plus, you're asking someone on the OB about how their deflasking efforts of Vanda seedlings went while you're in the process of purchasing a flask, which indicates to me that you've either never deflasked orchid seedlings before or you have very little experience in it, and therefore, (I'm assuming), might not be fully aware of the risks involved with deflasking orchid seedlings.

Sure, there are risks even when you're purchasing a seedling that has been deflasked and hardened off, but with each subsequent stage of growth, those risks diminish a little bit at a time.

[czayta]

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

@czayta: I'm offering a few Vanda insignis seedlings for sale that have already been hardened off.

I also have 1 Vanda javierae seedling for sale that has already been hardened off.

If you're looking for Vanda seedlings, something like the ones I'm selling are easier to handle than seedlings you have to learn how to harden off.

The Vanda insignis, I'm selling for $10.

The Vanda javierae seedling is $35.

Both are rare in the US trade.

I can currently only ship to the continental US.

If you're interested, you may send me a PM.

Even if you're not interested in the seedlings I have to offer for any reason, hardening off seedlings versus not having to harden off seedlings is something to consider into the cost. If you have to learn how to harden off seedlings, the learning curve could be very steep. The possibility of seedlings dying is very real, and a 100% loss is not unheard of. On one hand, you might luck out and end up with lots of seedlings; but if things aren't going well, you could be facing huge losses. Usually, with some experience and skill, it is more typical to get at least 10% of the seedlings to survive to maturity. I'm not necessarily saying that you will end up with a 10% survivability rate, but that's not unheard of either. You could end up with a 5% survivability rate, a 20%, 30%, or 60% success rate. Bottom line is, how many seedlings end up surviving depends on experience, skill, and luck, plus, it can be somewhat random.



Btw, I'm telling you this not because I want to dissuade you from buying a flask of Vanda seedlings and to persuade you into buying my already deflasked, and hardened off Vanda seedlings. Whether anybody out there likes it or not, I've told the truth about the challenges of deflasking seedlings. There are inherent risks to purchasing a flask, and you should know what those risks are as a buyer.

Reproduction for orchids is a numbers game for a reason…

Be aware that for an orchid that can grow as large as a human being, it has the ability to produce thousands, to millions of seeds per seed capsule.

Not every one of those will make it, regardless of whether the orchids were conceived out in the wild, or in a lab.

I just saw that you were actively looking to buy Vanda seedlings, and I am offering some Vanda seedlings that are ready to go with no need to deflask them nor to harden them off. Plus, you're asking someone on the OB about how their deflasking efforts of Vanda seedlings went while you're in the process of purchasing a flask, which indicates to me that you've either never deflasked orchid seedlings before or you have very little experience in it, and therefore, (I'm assuming), might not be fully aware of the risks involved with deflasking orchid seedlings.

Sure, there are risks even when you're purchasing a seedling that has been deflasked and hardened off, but with each subsequent stage of growth, those risks diminish a little bit at a time.

Hi king of orchid growing. I've already purchased a vanda flask, but thank you for the offer. I have hardened off seedlings before, just not Vandas. Thanks for all the info though