Orchids from Thailand

[taipan]

Originally Posted by cloudswinger

Just to state the obvious, but CITES only applies to species plants and animals. You wouldn't need it for BLC or Cattleyas(in Asia), since Cattleyas are not native to Asia. You don't need CITES permits for flasks either, if you want to go that route.

Sorry "cloudswinger" but CITES applies to ALL orchids & that includes hybrids as well. There are certain types of hybrids that are basically exempt from CITES but they have to be in flower ( for less than a certain number )& anything over that can be without flrs BUT must be IDENTICAL in looks. I am not sure if Catt's are in this catagory or not. Both "nobile" & "Phalananthe" Dens are on the list & Phal's as well. It is true that one does not need CITES for flasks unless you are/were getting Phrag.kovachii from Peru. Further more, country of origin does not come into it eg I can sell Catt.species & hybrids from Thailand but I still need to get CITES to export.

[cloudswinger]

Thanks, after reading some more, it does clarify some things. Some species Catts are on the list. I did find that US interpretation can be stricter than some other countries. So that if the species parents of a hybrid have not been released by the native country, then importing them to the US from a third country would still be illegal.

[taipan]

Originally Posted by cloudswinger

Thanks, after reading some more, it does clarify some things. Some species Catts are on the list. I did find that US interpretation can be stricter than some other countries. So that if the species parents of a hybrid have not been released by the native country, then importing them to the US from a third country would still be illegal.

"Cloudswinger", just out of curiosity what Catt's are on your "restricted" list ??. I was under the impression that one could export/import all Catt.species. Correct me if i am wrong but as far as I know the only Catt's to be "discovered" recently have been natural hybrids & the only Catt's on/were on appendix one were Catt.trianiae & skinneri & that there was a proposal by Colombia to take C.trianiae of App.1 & put it on App.2