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Old 07-11-2008, 06:53 PM
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Okay, here's the situation....I have a cochleatum hybrid that I think is actually "species". The tag reads "Epi. Green Hornet (cochleatum x lancifolium)". But since Epi. cochleatum has been changed to Anacheilum cochleatum, and Epi. lancifolium has also been changed to Anacheilum cochleatum....then is Epi. Green Hornet actually just Anacheilum cochleatum? Did a cultivar get shafted? It looks identical to cochleatum....whatever the genera may be.
I have since crossed it with a Spathoglottis, so I need to know what to call this poor lost plant! Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:19 PM
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:44 PM
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Confusing, isn't it?
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Just my two cents, Jasen;
since cochleata and lancifolia are considered now to be the same, then you'd have cochleata, undoubtedly, if that was the case. But, the International Orchid Register does recognize the hybrid Green Hornet as having Prosthechea cochleata and Encyclia trulla (not lancifolia) as parents. So, your plant would more properly be identified as Proscyclia (Prc.) Green Hornet.
The genus Anacheilium was founded by Johann Centurius von Hoffmannsegg in 1842 to shelter several species that once belonged to Epidendrum, but is not accepted anymore by the Royal Botanic Gardens-Kew in their Checklist of Monocots.
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:01 AM
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Thank you, Mauro, I think I had some people scratchin' their heads , including myself. Maybe you can grant me a little more of your wisdom, please. Going by what you said, what would now be the name of the genera of a cross between this, and Spathoglottis kimballiana var antiquensis? Thank you, in advance!
Also, I can't find it in the "grex name search" on the registry website, under any of these names.

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Old 07-12-2008, 12:17 AM
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Nevermind, found it in the registry. Still curious about the cross, though. What do you think, Proscycliaglottis? What about the reverse order?
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:46 AM
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Don't worry about it. That's the registrar's call, not the registrant.

If the hybrid became so complex that it necessitated one of those something-or-other-ara names (usually 4 or more genera involved), you may be able to recommend it, but technically, only the grex epithet is "controlled" by the registrant.
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Ray,

Is there a "link" to the RULES of Nomenclature? I would love to read them in their entirety (not at ONE sitting, though!).

If not a "link", where can these RULES be obtained?

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The closest I have is Orchid Naming, Registering Your Orchid Hybrid, and Inflorescence Structures
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Thanks for the info, Ray...I'm always spinning my wheels trying to figure this naming stuff out
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