Cites certificate and phytosanitary certificate

[Chococatte]

Originally Posted by newflasker

Look at CITES link for more information:
CITES Appendices
and
Appendices I, II and III

Orchids required CITES:
Aerangis ellisii Dendrobium cruentum Laelia jongheana Laelia lobata Paphiopedilum spp. Peristeria elata Phragmipedium spp. Renanthera imschootiana

If plants are in vitro you are safe no mater what kind of orchids.
" (......seedling or tissue cultures obtained in vitro, in solid or liquid media, transported in sterile containers are not subject to the provisions of the Convention)"

Yes I did read that earlier thru my own research. What I'm not understanding is if a plant is in flask does it only require the CITES certificate only or both the CITES certificate and Phytosanitary certificate coming from another country has an export? $120 AU currency is awful lot to pay to whine up closing a plant. Is there anyone out there that has been through this? To lead me in the right direction.

[newflasker]

Originally Posted by Chococatte

Yes I did read that earlier thru my own research. What I'm not understanding is if a plant is in flask does it only require the CITES certificate only or both the CITES certificate and Phytosanitary certificate coming from another country has an export? $120 AU currency is awful lot to pay to whine up closing a plant. Is there anyone out there that has been through this? To lead me in the right direction.

If you buy an orchid in vitro you don't need CITES, period. If you buy an orchid NOT in vitro; look at the list; If it's on the list you need CITES if it's not on the list you don't need it, quite simple. Phytosanitary certificate is a different issue.

[John]

I recently received an order from Hourai Orchids in Malaysia and they charged $15.00 for the phytosanitary and $10 each for CITES. I was allowed 4 plants per CITES. They hold an import permit so I didn't have to send them my labels. I believe you would need the PPQ 587 permit (when I got mine it was a PPQ 597 so they must have changed the numbers). When you fill out the paperwork state plants from "various approved countries". That leaves it open to import from where ever. With that, they will send you labels that you would send to the seller. The order then goes through one of the ports of entry that will inspect the plants for insects. My labels have Jamaica, NY as port of entry. I had an order from Burleigh Park Orchids in Australia a couple of years ago and if you want, I could look up the fees at that time. I think $120 is too much for a certificate. The permit is good for 5 years.
John

[Chococatte]

Could you John I would appreciate you doing that for me? AON said the phytosanitary certificate would be AU $120. You're right I believe also that's alittle high too pay for a phytosanitary certificate. Are the list of approved countries available in the CITES or where else do I find that information? Thanks for all your help.

Originally Posted by John

I recently received an order from Hourai Orchids in Malaysia and they charged $15.00 for the phytosanitary and $10 each for CITES. I was allowed 4 plants per CITES. They hold an import permit so I didn't have to send them my labels. I believe you would need the PPQ 587 permit (when I got mine it was a PPQ 597 so they must have changed the numbers). When you fill out the paperwork state plants from "various approved countries". That leaves it open to import from where ever. With that, they will send you labels that you would send to the seller. The order then goes through one of the ports of entry that will inspect the plants for insects. My labels have Jamaica, NY as port of entry. I had an order from Burleigh Park Orchids in Australia a couple of years ago and if you want, I could look up the fees at that time. I think $120 is too much for a certificate. The permit is good for 5 years.
John

[John]

I ordered 9 flaskes in 2005 from Bureigh Park Orchids and the Phytosanitary was $33.00. They didn't post a separate charge for a Cites but they did charge me over $100.00 postage. On my last order from Malaysia, there were 10 flasks and 10 plants and the postage was about $70.00. I liked the plants I received from Burleigh Park but they work in Australian dollars so I had to convert and try to hit the exchange rate. I much rather they would quote in US dollars. Check out the Burleigh Park Orchids website, they have information on Cites and other stuff.
John

[Undergrounder]

Originally Posted by John

... I liked the plants I received from Burleigh Park but they work in Australian dollars so I had to convert and try to hit the exchange rate. I much rather they would quote in US dollars.

Yeah and Santa Barbara should quote in Aussie dollars, it would make much more sense..

[snakecharma]

Originally Posted by Undergrounder

Yeah and Santa Barbara should quote in Aussie dollars, it would make much more sense..