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03-13-2024, 07:15 PM
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Petey,
There are about 7 recognized varieties of Den. speciosum. Some are blooming size with canes about 8" tall, others should be as high as 36".
There is a web site by an Australian grower ( www.therocklilyman.com) with tons of info, including many photos showing the plants growing on open hill sides in full sun.
Here in NJ, I put my speciosum outside into full sun in late April, and leave it till night time temp drops to about 34F (+1C). In 2022 my tenant moved my plant, so I overlooked it till late December. At that point it had been down to about 20F (-7C) twice.
The canes were mush, but I brought the pot inside anyway. 3 months later, it started 2 new shoots from the base.
I treat mature speciosum the same as kingianum & nobile:
Sept 15th = stop fertilizing
Oct 15th = cut back watering by 90% (till you see buds).
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03-14-2024, 09:39 AM
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Thanks for the link. Interesting.
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03-20-2024, 07:23 PM
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Dendrobium s. needs to be blasted by light. It also needs good watering when growing, every few days actually, but in VERY coarse mix. And I notice it benefits from cool night temperatures in 40s/50s/60s and higher ones during the day. Mine bloomed EACH spring because of the combo of amazing light, temperature differentials, and good watering.
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03-20-2024, 07:58 PM
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Are you talking about indirect light or sunshine?
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03-20-2024, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jldriessnack
Dendrobium s. needs to be blasted by light. It also needs good watering when growing, every few days actually, but in VERY coarse mix. And I notice it benefits from cool night temperatures in 40s/50s/60s and higher ones during the day. Mine bloomed EACH spring because of the combo of amazing light, temperature differentials, and good watering.
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First of all, you need to specify which Dendrobiums. It's a huge genus, and different types need different conditions. Also, your location would help evalutate your genralizations. I grow my Den speciousums outdoors (southern California), they get cold in winter and warm in summer. I have toasted leaves with too much direct sun in summer... they go for dappled sunshine. They aren't fussy about watering or much of anything else.
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03-21-2024, 01:00 AM
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Den speciosum blooming
As I mentioned above, this has not been a good year for Den. speciosum - most of my plants are just sitting there. (The Den. speciosum hybrids are doing fine however, running a bit late but flowers are starting to open ). My big Den. speciosum var. granfiflorum, however, is doing fine. The canes on this one are substantial (about 2 feet/60 cm tall or more, about 1 inch/2.5 cm in diameter or a bit more) This one is in semi-shade, and that doesn't seem to have hurt the blooming at all.
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03-21-2024, 02:20 AM
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I have a Den. xdelicatum which has had tiny spikes for several months now. They have grown maybe a millimeter since I noticed them in late December.
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03-21-2024, 02:42 AM
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I have a Den. xdelicatum which has had tiny spikes for several months now. They have grown maybe a millimeter since I noticed them in late December.
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I'm seeing fattening buds now... so maybe eventually.
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03-21-2024, 08:59 AM
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Are you talking about indirect light or sunshine?
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Roberta is right about toasting leaves. During spring, summer, and fall, I give my dendrobiums, especially speciosum, DIRECT morning sunshine for a few hours but allow them to rest the remainder of the day in light shade. They are acclimated to this over some time to get ready for summer. So I choose a spot where the sun hits them for a few hours in the morning. In Australia, they grow on bare rock in the open sun - I've seen it.
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Originally Posted by Roberta
First of all, you need to specify which Dendrobiums. It's a huge genus, and different types need different conditions. Also, your location would help evalutate your genralizations. I grow my Den speciousums outdoors (southern California), they get cold in winter and warm in summer. I have toasted leaves with too much direct sun in summer... they go for dappled sunshine. They aren't fussy about watering or much of anything else.
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Dendrobium s. is a reference to speciosum. Read. Also, I do not HAVE to do anything.
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