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Old 10-30-2023, 01:56 PM
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Regarding the care of a plant in situ vs. at home, it is true that they require more care, after all, as has already been mentioned, "we grow them so that they do not die", and of course they are not robust plants like in nature.

About what the market wants vs. what can tolerate the most poor care. It is very true that the not so pretty plants are the ones that sell the least, for example: Phrag Longifolium (Tolerates cultivation in soil without repot for years!), compare that to a Kovachi...

While it is true that there are plants that produce "robust" genes, the vast majority are not sold...

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About the symbiotic relationship with fungi, it makes me laugh that many Professional growers say "Don't apply such organic stuff, because it can increase biological activity"

My question then is: What do orchids grow in nature? In PVC pipes?

No, they grow in moss , leaf litter , humidity and compost all together 

Biological activity everywhere

However, there is the "mycorrhizae" factor, which we do not have D:
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Old 10-30-2023, 02:30 PM
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From what I've learned about plants so far is that to have them outside all of the time you have to have a few things:
  1. A plant that isn't more sensitive from being in cultivation
  2. Where you live has to have conditions that are pretty close to what it's like where they live naturally
  3. You have to give them time to get used to being outside.

My venus flytraps have been outside since this past spring, but I live somewhere that's relatively close to where they live in the wild. Plus they're pretty hardy plants compared to many orchids. A lot of orchids couldn't handle the conditions here, especially when it pushes above 100 degrees Fahrenheit in summer.

That being said, I think to some extent we baby plants just a little too much. Sure, some are very particular about what conditions they grow in, but some have a good amount of wiggle room as to what they can work with.

One orchid that's relevant is Neofinetia falcata. They've been grown for several hundreds of years in conditions from borderline freezing to smoldering hot, and in homes that were not at all like homes today. As long as they get the right humidity (minimum 40%), aren't in ridiculously bright light, aren't getting constantly attacked by pests, aren't soaking wet all year around and aren't being frozen in winter or burned by summer heat, they'll survive. It may not always be optimal, but they can probably manage with conditions that aren't exactly one-to-one with the Ryukyu Islands in Japan.

This obviously changes when you're trying to give optimal conditions to maximize growth, flowering and such. Which, obviously, who doesn't want to do that?
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Old 10-30-2023, 02:44 PM
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Regarding the care of a plant in situ vs. at home, it is true that they require more care, after all, as has already been mentioned, "we grow them so that they do not die", and of course they are not robust plants like in nature.

About what the market wants vs. what can tolerate the most poor care. It is very true that the not so pretty plants are the ones that sell the least, for example: Phrag Longifolium (Tolerates cultivation in soil without repot for years!), compare that to a Kovachi...

While it is true that there are plants that produce "robust" genes, the vast majority are not sold...

---------- Post added at 01:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:16 PM ----------

About the symbiotic relationship with fungi, it makes me laugh that many Professional growers say "Don't apply such organic stuff, because it can increase biological activity"

My question then is: What do orchids grow in nature? In PVC pipes?

No, they grow in moss , leaf litter , humidity and compost all together 

Biological activity everywhere

However, there is the "mycorrhizae" factor, which we do not have D:
Where I live I have seen Prostecheas growing in places with thick fog 365 days a year, they fall from the trees, animals step on them and I do not see fungal attacks ( -___-)

I was reading about immunity to Pathogens in Fruit and Vegetables, in general they infect them with weak strains, so that they develop "resistance"

But it seems that this resistance is NOT inherited, "the children" must develop it in the same way, but according to the book, they do it just as easily... Whether or not that applies to Orchids, I don't know... Any opinions ?
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