Laelia anceps ‘Disciplinata’ x ‘alba.’ What to expect?

[JenRiot321]

I recently got a great deal on an overgrown compot full of flowering size Laelia anceps ‘Disciplinata’ x L. anceps ‘alba.’ I know both the alba trait and the disciplinata patterning are recessive so I’m curious how they interact with each other and what the likely outcome possibilities might be.

Does anyone know the likelihood of either of the traits popping up in the offspring? I seem to remember reading that at least the alba needs to be bred with another alba to have any chance of coming out, but I don’t know if that’s the same with disciplinata/lineata type patterning. My assumption was that the alba is more recessive than the disciplinata, so there will be a higher chance of getting patterning on the petals than if the disciplinata was crossed with a normal type anceps but I’m not sure. How much that might increase the chances of getting nice patterning on the flowers is still a mystery to me.

I’ll probably end up with a bunch full of normal coloration Laelia anceps, but I’ll be ok with that given that I only paid like $6 a plant. Lol!

I’m mostly hoping to glean some breeding and genetics knowledge from those of you with more experience with the matter! Any general info on breeding for recessive traits in laelias and cattleyas would also be super interesting and helpful.

Thanks!

Cheers, Jen

[estación seca]

I don't know the answer. There are several different mutations which may result in alba flowers.

[Roberta]

There are enough, that statistics are on your side to maybe get some that are interesting. I suspect you're right that most will just be normal L. anceps. I have one, that was a cross of a cultivar with a particularly large flower and a peloric... clearly the intend was a vigorous peloric. Vigorous, yes but peloric, nope. But that's just a single plant. With the compot, you have a much better chance. And I hope lots of space, to grow them all to maturity.

[Fairorchids]

This is the type of breeding, that gives breeders a bad name - unless they make it clear that this is a stepping stone towards future generations.

Crossing two different recessive types is likely to produce all plain tipos. Each plant will, however, carry the recessive genes, which might be useful in the next generation.