neomoorea wallisii - blooming?

[jldriessnack]

Greetings,

A year and a half ago I was fortunate to come by a near specimen size neomoorea. It came to me in good health with 7 bulbs, each progressively larger than the last, and it put off two growths, both of which became baseball sized pseudobulbs. It lost all of its leaves, save for the 4 (2 each) on the new bulbs, and now seems to be putting off 4 new growths - 2 from each new lead. It seems to be tolerant of a wide range of temperatures, 48F to 95F - it has been subjected to all of it in the proper season - and is given between 3000-8000 footcandles with good air flower. It is in a window, with supplemental lights, and summers on my balcony in WV. The leaf loss, which is sort of usual as they seem to be quasi deciduous, was probably due to lack of humidity at times or maybe a touch too much watering. Other than that is really seems to be doing fine. Hasn't lost a bulb. Has 4 leads. The last 2 leads are massive. It is in moss in like a 12 inch pot, but I just cannot find any information on blooming. I am told some just won't for years, despite care. Any help? The leaves are a yellowish green (consistent - NO blotching) from high light. It is actually beginning to die back even the terminal leaves now, as it grows 4 more leads. Which is a little weird but I have read about it happening in them as well.

For some reason it won't allow me to upload photos.

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[estación seca]

It's a deciduous, wet-growing plant. I'm keeping mine alive.

[Louis_W]

Confusing, I'd love to see that

[DeaC]

Seems we're in the same club. Have had mine since 2017, obtained at an auction, so it's older than I know of. Owner never had blooms. I repotted it ~8/21 into lg. bark in 7"clay pot. Has 10 pbulbs and single or double leaves on 7 pbs. New growth is beginning. Was kept outside,semi-shade, in summer but now sits indoors somewhat near growlights. I let it get dry between waterings and just started fert. and Kelpmax. Internet Orchid Species Photo Encyclopedia is the only source of info I can find. May have to put this plant in the will!

[isurus79]

Following. Mine also won't bloom!

[thespookyasparagus]

A few notes on Neomoorea wallisii (syn irrorata) as I've been growing it for awhile and just noticed today that mine is in double spike. It's a bit of a fallacy that Neomoorea is a deciduous plant- that's not exactly accurate. They do have a tendency to defoliate older pseudobulbs as they get big, but my plant has held on to it's leaves from the past 3-4 growth cycles. I perceive that humidity is key- mine rarely drops below 75% RH and is often higher. They need a diurnal range of 10-15 degrees and also a short and hard winter rest, reducing water for 4-6 weeks in mid-winter (Dec-Jan) and watering just enough to keep the Pb's from shriveling (similar to good culture for Peristeria elata.)

Hope this is helpful, and I'll try to figure out how to post photos by the time mine is blooming...

[isurus79]

Originally Posted by thespookyasparagus

Hope this is helpful, and I'll try to figure out how to post photos by the time mine is blooming...

Can you post a photo here of the spikes forming?

[Ray]

Interesting comment about whether the plant is deciduous or not.

When the Chinese miniature phal species became available, many were dubbed as deciduous, yet when they were kept fed and watered year round, they didn't lose leaves at all.

[Dusty Ol' Man]

Originally Posted by thespookyasparagus

I'll try to figure out how to post photos by the time mine is blooming...

Upload your photos to Postimages — free image hosting / image upload
Choose 'hotlink for forums'
Paste the link here.
Voila!

[thespookyasparagus]

Thanks for the image hosting link. For some reason, the photo thing is not liking me at all, but I frequently have these kinds of tech issues, so I'm sure it's me. As soon as I have time, I'll sort through why it's not working for me.

Re: the issue of deciduous or not, I really believe this is the case with a lot of species- it's less that they are truly deciduous and more that they will defoliate at certain points in their life cycle, quality of culture, etc. In addition to Neomoorea, I think various Peristeria, Houlletia, Coryanthes, Kegeliella, Lycomormium all fall into this category. Will they lose leaves at times? Sure. Are they actually deciduous like Catesetinae or Anguloa? I don't think so...