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12-14-2021, 03:29 PM
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...Dear Mods - How many threads need to be shut down because of Shadeflower's unrelenting hostility and misinformation before you boot him??? Seriously?? This is getting ridiculous.
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It isn't against the rules to have differing opinions on care/culture, whether right, wrong, or just different. It's up to each member to choose what they think works or doesn't work for a particular setting. If someone starts a thread or participates in a thread, then engages with another's opinions, it's called discussion.
No one is calling anyone a fat toad or stringing together expletives. Use your ignore button if you need to. You can either agree, disagree, or not participate. You are neither the one to judge what constitutes misinformation, nor the one to question the moderators.
Carry on folks.
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12-14-2021, 04:06 PM
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You are neither the one to judge what constitutes misinformation, nor the one to question the moderators.
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Sorry, even though it wasn't addressed to me, I believe you've gone too far with that comment.
There are folks that are highly knowledgeable and those that are not. If the former do not help folks see that the latter are mistaken, then follow up with solid guidance, they are contributing to the "dumbing down" of the community, or at the very least, allowing it to happen. Many of us don't want to see the Orchid Board become the Fox "News" of orchid discussions.
Being a moderator of a forum does not make the individual royalty, sacrosanct, or always correct. It makes you someone nice enough to volunteer to help with technical issues and keep discussions "moderate". Questioning why such gibberish is allowed is not "immoderate", nor a challenge of the individual.
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12-14-2021, 05:11 PM
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Sorry, even though it wasn't addressed to me, I believe you've gone too far with that comment.
There are folks that are highly knowledgeable and those that are not. If the former do not help folks see that the latter are mistaken, then follow up with solid guidance, they are contributing to the "dumbing down" of the community, or at the very least, allowing it to happen. Many of us don't want to see the Orchid Board become the Fox "News" of orchid discussions.
Being a moderator of a forum does not make the individual royalty, sacrosanct, or always correct. It makes you someone nice enough to volunteer to help with technical issues and keep discussions "moderate". Questioning why such gibberish is allowed is not "immoderate", nor a challenge of the individual.
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I'm far away from royal, sacrosanct or always correct. Moderators here don't deal with technical issues either, so even further down the food chain. Also, you are taking out of context, Bill, to the overall statement. Or it's also very possible I didn't word it well enough.
Whether whatever ShadeFlower states is gibberish or not isn't relevant to what I attempted to state. And certainly I'm not attempting to stop one who is highly knowledgeable from giving their opinion in response to another's opinion, gibberish or incorrect or just plain bad advice. Go for it on either side. What I was saying was either give your response or opinion back or if you can't control yourself ignore it.
The dumbing down of individuals belongs to the individual that looks at one opinion and makes a decision, without studying one's own opinions or numerous opinions. That isn't a moderator's job.
Moderators are not here to take sides. They are here to keep the peace, not allow obscenities, personal attacks, and all the other schtuff we do behind the magic curtain. We are not the gatekeepers of advice or opinions, good or bad.
My comment was not directed specifically at Steve. It was directed at his comments toward moderators and intended that anyone could comment. Which you've done. It was addressed in this thread, and I responded in this thread. And if we want to continue this conversation, I'm fine with it, but will move the various comments to a new thread, as we're way off topic starting with the moderators comment.
It still seems more to me like a Saturday Night Live skit revisited, as opposed to Fox news. But since I no longer watch SNL, and never watch Fox news, it's likely also not a valid opinion.
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PS Notice how KSci (the original poster) and Clawhammer and now Roberta have ignored all the extraneous BS and just continued on topic with the conversation? It's another way to deal with a social media board.
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12-14-2021, 05:43 PM
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I'm far away from royal, sacrosanct or always correct. Moderators here don't deal with technical issues either, so even further down the food chain. Also, you are taking out of context, Bill, to the overall statement. Or it's also very possible I didn't word it well enough.
Whether whatever ShadeFlower states is gibberish or not isn't relevant to what I attempted to state. And certainly I'm not attempting to stop one who is highly knowledgeable from giving their opinion in response to another's opinion, gibberish or incorrect or just plain bad advice. Go for it on either side. What I was saying was either give your response or opinion back or if you can't control yourself ignore it.
The dumbing down of individuals belongs to the individual that looks at one opinion and makes a decision, without studying one's own opinions or numerous opinions. That isn't a moderator's job.
Moderators are not here to take sides. They are here to keep the peace, not allow obscenities, personal attacks, and all the other schtuff we do behind the magic curtain. We are not the gatekeepers of advice or opinions, good or bad.
My comment was not directed specifically at Steve. It was directed at his comments toward moderators and intended that anyone could comment. Which you've done. It was addressed in this thread, and I responded in this thread. And if we want to continue this conversation, I'm fine with it, but will move the various comments to a new thread, as we're way off topic starting with the moderators comment.
It still seems more to me like a Saturday Night Live skit revisited, as opposed to Fox news. But since I no longer watch SNL, and never watch Fox news, it's likely also not a valid opinion.
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PS Notice how KSci (the original poster) and Clawhammer and now Roberta have ignored all the extraneous BS and just continued on topic with the conversation? It's another way to deal with a social media board.
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12-15-2021, 01:05 AM
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PS Notice how KSci (the original poster) and Clawhammer and now Roberta have ignored all the extraneous BS and just continued on topic with the conversation? It's another way to deal with a social media board.
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I start these controversial threads because the resulting train wrecks are such good entertainment  .
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12-15-2021, 06:30 AM
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I start these controversial threads because the resulting train wrecks are such good entertainment  .
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12-15-2021, 05:40 PM
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I start these controversial threads because the resulting train wrecks are such good entertainment  .
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