What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not Members What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not Today's PostsWhat methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-08-2020, 08:45 PM
DirtyCoconuts's Avatar
DirtyCoconuts DirtyCoconuts is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2019
Zone: 10b
Location: South Florida, East Coast
Posts: 5,838
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
Default What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not

I was wondering, if I am using an atomizer to make vapor in my cloud tank will that also be able to spread nutrients or no, it’s just like steaming?

I know that in a humidifier the mechanical ones do not remove the nutrients but I also know that the aromatherapy kits that use atomizers clearly have oil in the vapor so I was confused and thought someone one you all might know more about this

Thanks
__________________
All the ways I grow are dictated by the choices I have made and the environment in which I live. Please listen and act accordingly
--------------------------------------------------------------
Rooted in South Florida....

Zone 10b, Baby! Hot and wet

#MoreFlowers Insta
#MoreFlowers Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-08-2020, 09:20 PM
SouthPark SouthPark is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2018
Member of:AOS
Location: Australia, North Queensland
Posts: 5,214
Default

DC ...... I once did try out those hair-salon sprayers ----- not the regular sprayers, but those ones that have a nozzle that sprays very very fine mist. The purpose was for 'foliar feeding'. But then after realising that the roots are the ones that actually cover for everything, I didn't use it anymore.

But for regular misting of say a cloud tank ----- your atomiser -- which is probably similar (or better) than the fine mist hair salon sprayer is expected to work excellently. I assume it's for keeping humidity up.

But if there happens to be nutrients in the mix, I expect that would behave like rain - comes down on leaves or media, and then if water is able to take the nutrients further down into the depths of media or onto roots, then the plants will get that into them.


Last edited by SouthPark; 08-09-2020 at 02:05 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-08-2020, 11:18 PM
DirtyCoconuts's Avatar
DirtyCoconuts DirtyCoconuts is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2019
Zone: 10b
Location: South Florida, East Coast
Posts: 5,838
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
Default

I was wondering if I used a nutrient or kelpmax or pro biotic would it get dispersed through the cloud vapor or only in the water?
__________________
All the ways I grow are dictated by the choices I have made and the environment in which I live. Please listen and act accordingly
--------------------------------------------------------------
Rooted in South Florida....

Zone 10b, Baby! Hot and wet

#MoreFlowers Insta
#MoreFlowers Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-09-2020, 12:27 AM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,577
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not Male
Default

I think the disc ultrasound fog generators would throw everything into the air if the reservoir were inside the terrarium. Many fog systems for terrariums use similar technology, but the reservoir is outside the tank, far away at the other end of the fog supply hose. I don't know how much condenses out.

A problem is that all the dissolved solutes will be left behind on every surface. People here use high-pressure misting systems for patio cooling with our mineral-laden tap water. Everything in reach winds up with a fine white crust.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes DirtyCoconuts liked this post
  #5  
Old 08-09-2020, 01:01 AM
DirtyCoconuts's Avatar
DirtyCoconuts DirtyCoconuts is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2019
Zone: 10b
Location: South Florida, East Coast
Posts: 5,838
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
Default

Thanks. This is an open system with the “cloud” coming from an atomizer. I was hoping I could just add a tiny bit of my fert to the reservoir (in the tank, at the bottom) and it would “rain” onto the plants

ThOse “mister” nozzles are cool. I have a small little mist tower I made for my daughter with those and pvc. They are quite effective in the short range
__________________
All the ways I grow are dictated by the choices I have made and the environment in which I live. Please listen and act accordingly
--------------------------------------------------------------
Rooted in South Florida....

Zone 10b, Baby! Hot and wet

#MoreFlowers Insta
#MoreFlowers Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-09-2020, 08:49 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 15,149
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not Male
Default

Most orchids are not particularly good about foliar uptake of nutrients - the waxy cuticle layers on the leaves, intended to slow water loss, also slow uptake.

Mist/fog for humidity.

Apply solutions of nutrients and additives to the roots.
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-09-2020, 10:33 AM
DirtyCoconuts's Avatar
DirtyCoconuts DirtyCoconuts is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2019
Zone: 10b
Location: South Florida, East Coast
Posts: 5,838
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray View Post
Most orchids are not particularly good about foliar uptake of nutrients - the waxy cuticle layers on the leaves, intended to slow water loss, also slow uptake.

Mist/fog for humidity.

Apply solutions of nutrients and additives to the roots.
i am not trying to foliar feed, i am looking to see if i can avoid spraying in the tank. I have about 1.5 gallons of rainwater in the tank. by evening the walls are just about dry i know the wicking and splash from the drips will spread the liquid but all the plants are bareroot and most are watered just by the vapor. so i was wondering if i added the nutes to the res would it be removed by the atomizer or would it be a nutrient rich mist?

i can spray if i have to but it will just require me to be involved more than i want to and it will require that i figure out a way to also "flush" out the area to prevent any build up


thanks for the info guys
__________________
All the ways I grow are dictated by the choices I have made and the environment in which I live. Please listen and act accordingly
--------------------------------------------------------------
Rooted in South Florida....

Zone 10b, Baby! Hot and wet

#MoreFlowers Insta
#MoreFlowers Flickr

Last edited by DirtyCoconuts; 08-09-2020 at 11:45 AM.. Reason: unacceptable typos
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-09-2020, 11:04 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 15,149
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not Male
Default

If the mist is created mechanically, either a spinning atomizer or ultrasonic transducer, it will contain the nutrients. If the mist is created by evaporation, it will not.
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes DirtyCoconuts liked this post
  #9  
Old 08-09-2020, 11:47 AM
DirtyCoconuts's Avatar
DirtyCoconuts DirtyCoconuts is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2019
Zone: 10b
Location: South Florida, East Coast
Posts: 5,838
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
Default

that is what i needed to know! i was just doing research on the atomizer and getting up to speed but i do love a short cut!!!!!

thanks!


i was thinking i would add 1 tsp of Quantum and 1 tsp of kelpmax and do that monthly

1/3 tsp of k-lite weekly?
__________________
All the ways I grow are dictated by the choices I have made and the environment in which I live. Please listen and act accordingly
--------------------------------------------------------------
Rooted in South Florida....

Zone 10b, Baby! Hot and wet

#MoreFlowers Insta
#MoreFlowers Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-09-2020, 07:58 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 15,149
What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyCoconuts View Post
i was thinking i would add 1 tsp of Quantum and 1 tsp of kelpmax and do that monthly

1/3 tsp of k-lite weekly?
I don't know how to translate from drench to mist...

With a biological like Quantum-Total, the number of microbes applied is more important that the concentration, per se. They recommend between 1 and 2 ounces per application, every 3-4 weeks. The formula has at least 60-million "colony forming units" per ml., so roughly 1.8-billion per ounce. Is a teaspoon added to an unknown mist volume sufficient?? You got me.

Likewise with the KelpMax. 1 tablespoon/gallon should be used monthly as a drench.

Fertilizer? How much volume of liquid is that delivered in?
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
atomizers, humidifier, mechanical, nutrients, vapor


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:39 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.