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08-08-2020, 08:45 PM
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What methods of misting, vaporizing and humidfying retains nutrients and which do not
I was wondering, if I am using an atomizer to make vapor in my cloud tank will that also be able to spread nutrients or no, it’s just like steaming?
I know that in a humidifier the mechanical ones do not remove the nutrients but I also know that the aromatherapy kits that use atomizers clearly have oil in the vapor so I was confused and thought someone one you all might know more about this
Thanks
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08-08-2020, 09:20 PM
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DC ...... I once did try out those hair-salon sprayers ----- not the regular sprayers, but those ones that have a nozzle that sprays very very fine mist. The purpose was for 'foliar feeding'. But then after realising that the roots are the ones that actually cover for everything, I didn't use it anymore.
But for regular misting of say a cloud tank ----- your atomiser -- which is probably similar (or better) than the fine mist hair salon sprayer is expected to work excellently. I assume it's for keeping humidity up.
But if there happens to be nutrients in the mix, I expect that would behave like rain - comes down on leaves or media, and then if water is able to take the nutrients further down into the depths of media or onto roots, then the plants will get that into them.
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08-08-2020, 11:18 PM
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I was wondering if I used a nutrient or kelpmax or pro biotic would it get dispersed through the cloud vapor or only in the water?
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08-09-2020, 12:27 AM
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08-09-2020, 01:01 AM
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Thanks. This is an open system with the “cloud” coming from an atomizer. I was hoping I could just add a tiny bit of my fert to the reservoir (in the tank, at the bottom) and it would “rain” onto the plants
ThOse “mister” nozzles are cool. I have a small little mist tower I made for my daughter with those and pvc. They are quite effective in the short range
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08-09-2020, 08:49 AM
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Most orchids are not particularly good about foliar uptake of nutrients - the waxy cuticle layers on the leaves, intended to slow water loss, also slow uptake.
Mist/fog for humidity.
Apply solutions of nutrients and additives to the roots.
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08-09-2020, 10:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray
Most orchids are not particularly good about foliar uptake of nutrients - the waxy cuticle layers on the leaves, intended to slow water loss, also slow uptake.
Mist/fog for humidity.
Apply solutions of nutrients and additives to the roots.
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i am not trying to foliar feed, i am looking to see if i can avoid spraying in the tank. I have about 1.5 gallons of rainwater in the tank. by evening the walls are just about dry i know the wicking and splash from the drips will spread the liquid but all the plants are bareroot and most are watered just by the vapor. so i was wondering if i added the nutes to the res would it be removed by the atomizer or would it be a nutrient rich mist?
i can spray if i have to but it will just require me to be involved more than i want to and it will require that i figure out a way to also "flush" out the area to prevent any build up
thanks for the info guys
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08-09-2020, 11:04 AM
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If the mist is created mechanically, either a spinning atomizer or ultrasonic transducer, it will contain the nutrients. If the mist is created by evaporation, it will not.
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08-09-2020, 11:47 AM
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that is what i needed to know! i was just doing research on the atomizer and getting up to speed but i do love a short cut!!!!!
thanks!
i was thinking i would add 1 tsp of Quantum and 1 tsp of kelpmax and do that monthly
1/3 tsp of k-lite weekly?
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08-09-2020, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyCoconuts
i was thinking i would add 1 tsp of Quantum and 1 tsp of kelpmax and do that monthly
1/3 tsp of k-lite weekly?
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I don't know how to translate from drench to mist...
With a biological like Quantum-Total, the number of microbes applied is more important that the concentration, per se. They recommend between 1 and 2 ounces per application, every 3-4 weeks. The formula has at least 60-million "colony forming units" per ml., so roughly 1.8-billion per ounce. Is a teaspoon added to an unknown mist volume sufficient?? You got me.
Likewise with the KelpMax. 1 tablespoon/gallon should be used monthly as a drench.
Fertilizer? How much volume of liquid is that delivered in?
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