Unforgiven

[rbarata]

Does anyone lives or have the possibility to visit Marty?
If I recall correctly someone sugested it, to visit him at Misking? I remeber someone gave an address...

We could start from there...

[Dollythehun]

I am not a Face Book girl. This forum appeals to me. I've "met" some very knowledgeable people. I can get on, or not, and escape from the news. Except for a rare occasion, everyone is polite and the language is clean. Frankly, that is saying a lot. I would miss any of you who left but, I would still come here. I think our complaining is beating a dead horse ( nothing against horses, or the dead, or animal cruelty). I probably couldn't say that on FB😉

[estación seca]

That was me, in another thread, who suggested walking in the door and asking.

Mist King is owned by Jungle Hobbies Ltd. There is no hint of a physical address on their Web site
MistKing Misting Systems by Jungle Hobbies Ltd . There is a contact form which can be filled out and submitted on the Web site. I bought my setup from a US distributor and the box came from the US.

There is a Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/mistking
which shows photos of displays at a lot of reptile shows across the world, especially in the US.

I would guess somebody could look at their Facebook page (I don't have an account), to find a nearby upcoming reptile show, and go and ask. Most reptile shows charge admission, but I have seen a number of reptiliphiliacs on this site who might already go. The next show in Arizona is not until October, the Tucson Reptile Show.

[Dollythehun]

OK. I think Google auto correct is way more infuriating than the speed of the OB!

[rbarata]

Originally Posted by estación seca

That was me, in another thread, who suggested walking in the door and asking.

Mist King is owned by Jungle Hobbies Ltd. There is no hint of a physical address on their Web site
MistKing Misting Systems by Jungle Hobbies Ltd . There is a contact form which can be filled out and submitted on the Web site. I bought my setup from a US distributor and the box came from the US.

There is a Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/mistking
which shows photos of displays at a lot of reptile shows across the world, especially in the US.

I would guess somebody could look at their Facebook page (I don't have an account), to find a nearby upcoming reptile show, and go and ask. Most reptile shows charge admission, but I have seen a number of reptiliphiliacs on this site who might already go. The next show in Arizona is not until October, the Tucson Reptile Show.

There's a twitter contact. I think is more direct than e-mail. I never used it (like FB) and it would be best, I think, someone who knows Marty personally to contact him.

[PaphMadMan]

Originally Posted by jkofferdahl

I hope others don't give up! I almost did but the knowledge-base and friendliness of the membership here are wonderful. To me, despite the annoyances the positives outweigh the negatives.

I would agree, it is still worth the effort for now. My concern is if Marty remains uncommunicative one day OB WILL just be gone with no notice and no recourse to regain what is lost - the huge resource of information in past posts, the community, the personal interactions that have no basis to continue outside this forum. People who have given financial support will have nothing to show for it. Donations are still being taken but the current situation does not really merit them, and that can only compound the problems.

[FairyInTheFlowers]

Originally Posted by PaphMadMan

no recourse to regain what is lost - the huge resource of information

This isn't necessarily true. I forget what it's called, but there is a webservice that slowly crawls through the net, archiving snippets of things as it goes. Because of the fact this site is rather large, I know we get archived. I've been able to look at what this site was like back in the late 2000's because it was archived.

[estación seca]

Originally Posted by FairyInTheFlowers

This isn't necessarily true. I forget what it's called, but there is a webservice that slowly crawls through the net, archiving snippets of things as it goes. Because of the fact this site is rather large, I know we get archived. I've been able to look at what this site was like back in the late 2000's because it was archived.

archive.org A catchy name. It often doesn't capture even some of what is on a very large site.

[u bada]

Originally Posted by estación seca

For perspective, in the 1970s there was no orchid growing information available outside the brains of expert growers and books.

The Orange County, California library system had almost no orchid books. The library was far from our house, and my parents were too busy to take me there. The bookmobile stopped within bicycle range once a week. I was allowed to borrow 7 books per week.

The catalog was available as a printout in the bookmobile, sorted by the Dewey Decimal system. The books they had needed to be ordered with a paper order slip at the bookmobile. Then I had to wait until the book was returned to the library by the previous borrower, put into the bookmobile, and the bookmobile arrived. Sometimes it took many months to get a book.

After running through the orchid books available at the library I saved up what seemed like an enormous amount of money and bought the third edition of Rebecca Northen's book Home Orchid Growing. That was the best book by far at the time.

Guess what? The amount of useful growing information in that book is minute compared to what is available here on the Orchid Board. So even if I had to wait a half hour for a page to load, which hasn't happened, I'm still far better off here than I was in the 1970s.

Hear hear!

[PaphMadMan]

Originally Posted by FairyInTheFlowers

This isn't necessarily true. I forget what it's called, but there is a webservice that slowly crawls through the net, archiving snippets of things as it goes. Because of the fact this site is rather large, I know we get archived. I've been able to look at what this site was like back in the late 2000's because it was archived.

Yes, for current websites. But when registration of the address is dropped and someone else takes over the defunct web address because it is still getting traffic, then that archive disappears - forever - at least in terms of public access. A huge amount of valuable information for the old Antec Labs website was lost in just that way. It was there in the archive, and then it wasn't.

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Originally Posted by estación seca

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Guess what? The amount of useful growing information in that book is minute compared to what is available here on the Orchid Board. So even if I had to wait a half hour for a page to load, which hasn't happened, I'm still far better off here than I was in the 1970s.

Until the OB is suddenly gone, forever, and unrecoverable - which will happen at some point.